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Friday, September 11, 2009

The Youth Group Black Hole

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       Here is a post by a good friend of mine on Xanga named Bernie that all should consider carefully. If you have never visited Bernie's blog please do so. I highly recommend it for your spiritual walk and growth. There is a large group of Christians that visit and comment on Bernie's blog from a large variety of backgrounds. We discuss many issues and teaching that are not considered by Pastors that must be heard and understood. We all love the Lord, seeking truth as the scriptures proclaim it. I guess we are almost like a modern church there, all fellowshipping, all learning, sharpening sword on sword, discussing, handwringing over different things in the bible, that are commonly ignored by the Foolish Shepherds that refuse to teach the Pauline Epistles and books of prophecy. Come visit us there, fellowship, eating the word, discussing, breaking bread with us, having church with our fellowship, if you wish.  For all are welcome. Here is the link: Bernie's Blog or you may wish to go to the original post at this link: Bernie's "a BIG RANT on the plight of youth"

For those of you that are studying scripture and following along I would recommend you to read and study my sermon called Teach Your Children Well .  This sermon gives scriptural evidence that the lack of passing the gospel to the children, next generation, has been going on since the fall of all creation with Adam and Eve. Another complimentary sermon would be The Race To Christ. Since this is also of considering whether it is healthy to place the church over our spiritual growth rather than ourselves consider this short sermon here: Do the churches Read enough of God's Words?     

 

a BIG RANT on the plight of youth

One of the great adventures currently going on in my teenage daughter’s life is youth group.She is 17 and had never been in a youth group and this year one of her friends (now former friends) invited her to come to youth group with her … she has even ventured out on a mission trip with them.Nonetheless … she is a youth group outcast.

 

Through her adventures I am coming to a number of realizations about youth group … I might add realizations that I was totally and completely blind to in my 6 or 7 years of volunteer youth work.

 

Unhealthy high school socialization (aka survival of the clique, the popular and the bully) is alive and thriving in youth groups … and youth leaders with their training to ‘connect with the kids’ and ‘act like kids’ continue to do virtually nothing about it … just as I did nothing about it.

 

At many youth group meetings across this country, some kids who came seeking hope and connection leave instead victimized and demoralized as a result of youth group socialization.Sorry Christ Jesus was not at the assembly tonight …

 

While teenage girls may be considered more mature than teenage boys, they can certainly be vicious and backstabbing to other girls … I call it the mean girls syndrome.Please … this is not intended to be an across-the-board criticism.

 

A girl one-on-one is totally different than a girl in-a-pack.Once a clique is established … an impenetrable wall is established and the big guns are top-mounted and aimed at any and all within sight regardless of whether they are a threat or not and without regard to their value as a child of God.Every shot fired makes the clique wall stronger and serves to inflate the ego, pride and bully characteristics of the clique and those within even more.

 

Please don’t take this as girl bashing.I have 4 daughters and 4 granddaughters and I love them all.But I am sensitive to what they endure … and also what I have seen them inflict.And it is radically different than boys.Boys and men tend to be either Lone Rangers or relationship impaired or maybe even both … and that is a confession of sorts.

 

As youth leaders we are often so focused on an end result we totally miss the objective of the ministry God has given us.Maybe it is getting more kids at a meeting or event, maybe it is completing a service project, having the perfect meeting, putting on a play possibly, getting the kids to bring visitors, etc. … and we miss the entire point of the ministry.Our goal is not achievement or expectation … in fact those things push the kids away … and it pushes them very hard.

 

Our goal … and our desire IN Christ Jesus is to love one another.And in the midst of our striving and our achieving and our expectations in ministry, loving one another often takes a back seat … or maybe even ends up in the trunk or in the trailer or home on the dresser.

 

And Jesus finds himself in the copilot seat … or even worse, the church or ministry is put on autopilot with history and routine being the satellite charting the course on our religious GPS.

 

There is a lot of talk right now about kids leaving the church when they graduate from high school.Some surveys even report it happens much earlier.One book I have recently seen is titled ‘Already Gone’ and found a pattern that suggest kids who attend Sunday School are more likely to leave the church than those who don’t.

 

The suggestion for resolution: we need to re-embrace the authority of Scripture and do more bible-based teaching.All well and good … actually essential … but …

 

There are greater points that are being missed in the midst of these surveys.Being in church is not the same as being IN Christ … for the most part, these kids are not leaving Christ … because they never met Him … they are leaving the religious, political, service and moral expectations of churches and parents because they NEVER saw or experienced the love of God or personally met the Lord and Savior Christ Jesus or sensed the indwelling convicting and leading presence of the Holy Spirit.The love of one another that Jesus intended to draw people unto Himself, the oneness and unity He intended to be His witness … are both often MIA.

 

Unfortunately Christians, especially those in leadership positions, often feel it is their responsibility to change people vs. trusting Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit in fulfilling their responsibilities of regeneration.And to make things even worse, we start the religious change-and-fix program before that person even knows and is known by Christ Jesus.Get ‘em saved or get ‘em moral … sometimes it doesn’t seem to matter which one happens.And I have served in churches where if the kids weren’t moral, the church parents didn’t want them there … we must keep church SAFE.

 

We are so busy thinking about how we believe they need to change and who we believe they need to become, we fail to seek and sense what God is already doing in their lives and who they are and who He desires them to become – THERE IS NO COOKIE CUTTER.Too often we seek to repair those who are simply in the midst of God’s plan, purpose and timing of becoming a fully reconciled, realized and loved child of God.

 

One final point:I tip my hat to youth pastors and youth leaders.They take on an extremely difficult job that really is not part of God’s design … raising someone else’s children from a faith and spiritual perspective.As church members and attendees we place extremely unfair and unbiblical expectations on both our youth pastors and our senior pastors when we think they should raise our children or the children of others.

 

Another taboo I have encountered is ‘Don’t invest too much time (aka disciple) in kids whose parents don’t come to the church.’I kid you not.Quite frankly if the parent is in the church, then their children probably don’t even need to be in youth group – Dad do your job (Hello mirror!).The kids with Christless parents need youth ministry far more than the church kids do.

 

That position and responsibility for raising a child in the faith belongs to parents.And quite often we partially or totally abdicate that parental throne.Many parents have chosen (or neglected to choose and have simply allowed) their children to be raised by public education, by media and culture, by their money and jobs, by their peers, and in some circumstances along with all these forces the children simply raise themselves.Need we discuss the results?

 

Suddenly this passage makes a lot of sense …

 

Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth. 1 John 3:18 (NASB)

 

Sounds like we need to burden our children with less lip service and fewer expectations … and pour out more of the love of God in deed and truth.

 

Simply love them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

End of rant …

 

Thankyou Bernie for this Rant that all in the the Body of Christ should consider carefully.

 

Now here is my personal experience of when my wife pushed our daughter into a local youth group and what happened to her spiritual growth and how she was pushed into a social situation she was incapable of handling.

 

When my daughter was in 5th & 6th grade my wife insisted that I find a good Christian youth group for her to be involved in. She already had loved the Lord and read her bible 1/2 hour each day at my insistence and we would have bible study at the kitchen table often. Her spirit was growing quite nice at that time and i didn't see much of a point but my wife thought she needed it and taking that into consideration we started looking for a good youth group. We found one that was on our side of town that was part of a network of Baptist churches. We enrolled her. They would have all kinds of pizza parties with the Adults that ran the group also setting up football pizza parties. To my dismay over time I felt concerned that the biblical teaching was so basic and minimal I yawned just thinking of it. They would read the ten commandments but it was so basic my daughter had covered that material when she was in about first grade.


At first my daughter hated it, she said all the kids were stuck up and snotts. We thought she had difficulty making friends and chalked it up to that. She said all the kids were from rich families and all wore Polo shirts and better clothes with those new digital music things. Once again we chalked it up to our daughter's inability to make friends. A lot of the same kids went to her school and she said they were very cliquish and  wouldn't talk to her. She said she hated them.


Suddenly our daughter was friends with all these youth group friends and we thought that was great. Shortly after this I had bought her a new laptop for school and let her go online, soon she had a cell phone, we said for safety purposes. She was given explicit instructions and boundaries on what she could do online with only friends she knew in school.


Then I caught her going where she shouldn't be online, emailing with what she thought was a boy in school which turned out to be an adult in Texas. Through the scolding of her, and scaring her like parents can and do manipulate and extract the truth from their young children, turns out, she had gone into my wife's purse and stole $100.00 cash to buy a digital music player she had asked for months before that we told her she couldn't have.


My conclusion was that all her friends were brats and we had made a big mistake by pushing her into social situations she was not ready for. Getting her in that youth group was the worst mistake we made and we count our blessings everyday that I was watching her close enough to catch her when we did. We got all the truth out and moved away from that neighbor hood where these bad rich Christian kids were the worst kids in the school, like a rich kids gang, and were treating all the other kids in school with a mean spiritedness their parents I am sure were never aware of, or maybe they were aware I do not know.


A lot of prayer and stress between my wife and I plus arguing and a willingness to move. The moving was not by choice, we couldn't sell the house and ended up bankrupt. I am convinced the ensuing foreclosure on our house turned out to be a blessing for when we moved to a tiny little town of 450 in Minnesota we got our daughter back. Our daughter attends a tiny school with only 8 people in her grade. She hated it the first couple months. Her old bad youth group friends kept writing and we just kept throwing the letters away to protect her. When ever she was in school or gone from the apartment we live in I would rumble through her things throwing all old pictures and addresses and anything that would reconnect her with her old bad friends.


Now she is a good kid again. We are now more careful and do not push her into social situations like youth groups as such. I am not saying all Christian youth groups are bad, only that parents, please be very careful. Just because they are Christians does not mean they care about how their children are raised or what false prophets they follow, be very careful. Our daughter is now back on track good spiritually. She reads her bible and loves God and now realizes mostly how bad her old friends were. We no longer let her email or text other kids nor does she have a phone except emergency purposes. We now keep a tighter reign on her friends, who they are, and do not just let her hang with just anyone. We forced her to join all the activities in school even though she protested and somehow now she is friends with the better kids that are involved in things at school. We no longer have the naive feeling that the youth group kids are the better kids, in fact we now feel very cautious.


As sad as it is these youth group kids were the worst kids for my daughter to be friends with. They were mostly rich kids, all wearing expensive clothes with expensive things, all very very materialistic.

Parents teach your children. I think all Christian parents should be very careful unless it is of course your own church youth group and you will have a better idea of the peer group ( your kid will befriend), spiritual growth. Parents, feed your children God's words for the end is near and the time is very short. Throw your children a life preserver. Reach out grabbing their hand pulling them in. No one has more ability to connect with them to influence their decision of salvation more than you.  


This little mistake caused many of years of heartache in our family. I can only hope others may benefit from this story.       

              Passing the Gospel to Our Children is the Most Important Job
                                     Genesis 2:17-3:3 NIV 
 

               Teach Your Children Well

    The most important job we have is to pass the gospel to our children.  We must be a witness to them first. This was the cause of the fall of mankind, think about that for a minute.  "How can I say that?",  some may wonder.

                God gave the gospel and law to Adam which was only one sentence, Genesis 2:17.  We know when we read in verse 18 that Eve was not created yet. In verse 21 &22

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it reads Adam and Eve in Paradise"God caused Adam to have a deep sleep."  God then took one of Adam's ribs creating Eve.  Eve was born of flesh from Adam just like a child is born of flesh from Mother and Father. Eve was flesh from Adam. Adam was before Eve and had the responsability to teach Eve just like parents have the responsability to teach their children. There is a very famous song by James Taylor called "Teach, Your Children Well." Eve in a sense was like Adam's child, so it was Adam's job to teach the gospel and law to Eve.  Adam failed at this miserably. So Man was created from the dust of the earth while Eve was created from a part of Adam just like our children. 

    We do not know how long Adam was on earth before Eve was created, but we do know one thing for sure.  Adam never taught the gospel to Eve and even let Eve take over the spiritual position of Adam.  This was Adam's failure to Eve, even failure to himself.  This failure is the same when we do not pass the gospel to our children.  Look at Genesis 3:2-3. Eve is doing all the talking while Adam is standing there being quiet, being passive. Christians should never be passive when sin is taking over. Adam never passed on the gospel to Eve.  Adam never taught Eve God's words. Adam never corrected Eve lovingly, when he should have, he just never spoke up.

       We see the same problem with Cain and Able.  This time it appears both parent's fault, which indicates it was both their faults the first time.  We see Cain kills Able out of jealousy of God's love.  Cain was never taught to be careful and trust God's words.  Adam and Eve never taught Cain to follow God, [no matter where He takes you or what he asks you].  They never taught Cain the hard lesson they learned that got them banned from the Garden Of Eden.  If they had Cain would never have rebeled like he did.  They never taught Cain what the Garden Of Eden was like, nor did they teach him God's unfailing love.  They never taught him how crafty Satan was, how Eve was deceived, how Adam failed to teach Eve the gospel, God's holy words.

    We see all throughout the bible great men and women of God like King David, Jacob, Samuel the prophet, and many many others that time and time again did not successfully pass the gospel to their children, did not teach their children how good God is, how to sing from their hearts about God. If there is a top five bible lessons that God reveals to us in the bible, this surely, must be one of them. We must pass the absolute truth of the gospel to our children. Our children depend on it, church growth depends on it and it is the right thing to do.   

    Great Godly people throughout history have struggled  to pass the gospel to their children.  Even Jesus' mother Mary appears to have struggled in this endeavor, See my sermon titled "The Brothers and Mother of Jesus," at this link:.

The Brothers and Mother of Jesus

    So passing the gospel to our children is something to be very proud of indeed, for many a great men and women have failed in this skill.

Selah-Have An Awakening On This.


Tuesday, June 16, 2009

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Angels in the ER: Inspiring True Stories from an Emergency Room Doctor
By Robert D. Lesslie
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Angel on Film?

Is this a picture of an Angel? I ran into this on a fellow Xangan's website. She took this picture one morning when she woke up. She only took pictures of streams of light but this showed up on the film. Here are her exact words:

"I woke early one morning and took advantage of the kids sleeping.. when I peered outside and saw the amazing streams of light coming through the trees.. I had taken several of them and when I went to download them and found this one photo of a purple image which to me looked like an angel."
 
Is this truly amazing or what? She gave me permission to put this on my website with a link back to hers if you wish: http://shelmybel17.xanga.com/photos/490b5201713888/ if you wish visit shelmybell7 and see for yourself but I thought it was pretty amazing. What are your thoughts? Are these signs and wonders? Is it an Angel?
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Monday, May 25, 2009

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The Greatest Hits
By Keith Green
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Satan's Worldwide Convention

Here is a post that was on Bernies blog of a Email that has been circulating on Xanga for 8 years now.  It's author is unknown.  BTW if you haven't already visited and read Bernie's blog your missing out on some blessings.  I have changed it some to update it. To visit go to this link:Bernie's Blog  

B-U-S-Y and Satan’s Worldwide Convention

 

B-U-S-Y and Satan’s Worldwide Convention

Satan called a worldwide convention of demons.

In his opening address he said,

"We can't keep Christians from going to church."

"We can't keep them from reading their Bibles and knowing the truth."

"We can't even keep them from forming an intimate relationship with their Savior."

"Once they gain that connection with Jesus, our power over them is broken."

"So let them go to their churches; let them have their covered dish dinners, BUT steal their time, so they don't have time to develop a relationship with Jesus Christ."

"This is what I want you to do," said the devil:

"Distract them from gaining hold of their Savior and maintaining that vital connection throughout their day!"

"How shall we do this?" his demons shouted.

"Keep them busy in the non-essentials of life and invent innumerable schemes to occupy their minds," he answered.

"Tempt them to spend, spend, spend, and borrow, borrow, borrow."

"Persuade the wives to go to work for long hours and the husbands to work 6-7 days each week, 10-12 hours a day, so they can afford their empty lifestyles."

 

"Bigger houses, bigger televisions, bigger cars & more taxes."


"Keep them from spending time with their children."

"As their families fragment, soon, their homes will offer no escape from the pressures of work!"

"Over-stimulate their minds so that they cannot hear that still, small voice."

"Give them images that pierce their very souls. Send them movies, filth and materialism.   Get them to laugh at things they shouldn't be laughing at. Get them to nod their heads in agreement to things that mock and offend God. Get them to laugh at God like they are superior to God. This will cause them to abandon God." 

"Send soft porn to them that leads to hard porn that is pumped right into their living rooms through the internet. Turn them all into a people of no self control. Send phychetropic drugs that mask the massive voids in their hearts only Christ can fill. Send them child molestors. Send them parents that kill their children for personal gain. Give them judges that know no justice." 

"Entice them to stay up all night looking at pornographic images on the internet."To keep the TV, VCR, CDs and their PCs going constantly in their home and see to it that every store and restaurant in the world plays non-biblical music constantly"

"Give them Pastors that teach the bible out of context. Send them Pastors that add words to God's words to line their own pockets with gold. Professionalize their Pastors with many degrees to rebuild the wall of seperation Christ tore down."


"This will jam their minds and break that union with Christ."

"Fill the coffee tables with magazines and newspapers."

"Pound their minds with the news 24 hours a day."

"Invade their driving moments with billboards."

"Flood their mailboxes with junk mail, mail order catalogs, sweepstakes, and every kind of newsletter and promotional offering free products, services and false hopes."

"Keep skinny, beautiful models on the magazines and TV so their husbands will believe that outward beauty is what's important, and they'll become dissatisfied with their wives. "

"Keep the wives too tired to love their husbands at night."

"Give them headaches too!If they don't give their husbands the love they need, they will begin to look elsewhere."

"That will fragment their families quickly!"

"Give them Santa Claus to distract them from teaching their children the real meaning of Christmas."

"Give them an Easter bunny so they won't talk about his resurrection and power over sin and death."

"Even in their recreation, let them be excessive."

"Have them return from their recreation exhausted."

"Keep them too busy to go out in nature and reflect on God's creation.Send them to amusement parks, sporting events, plays, concerts, and movies instead."

"Keep them busy, busy, busy!"

"And when they meet for spiritual fellowship, involve them in gossip and small talk so that they leave with troubled consciences."

"Crowd their lives with so many good causes they have no time to seek power from Jesus."

"Soon they will be working in their own strength, sacrificing their health and family for the good of the cause."

"It will work!"

"It will work!"

It was quite a plan!


The demons went eagerly to their assignments causing Christians everywhere to get busier and more rushed, going here and there.

Having little time for their God or their families.

Having no time to tell others about the power of Jesus to change lives.

I guess the question is, has the devil been successful in his schemes?

You be the judge!!!!!

Does "BUSY" mean B-eing U-nder S-atan's Y-oke?

  

 

                                                                                


Tuesday, March 17, 2009

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Hosea / Joel (Thru the Bible Commentary)
By J. Vernon McGee
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My Commentary On Book Of Joel

                         Joel Commentary

       This is my commentary on the book of Joel.  This book's prophetic meaning is now revealed to the body of Christ.  My comments are not meant to replace the word of God, nor be added to it.  They are meant only as a guide for you to compare my interpretation to what the Holy Spirit leads you. 

 

       Please comment on areas that you feel are wrong and I will be happy to reconsider it included with the facts you gave.  My only intention is to teach on the book of Joel, subject at hand. 

 

       Lack of leadership in the body of Christ on prophecy is unending.  Those who are pastors and teachers constantly teach this book out of the context of prophecy and the Day of the Lord and this is just plain wrong. 

       Many of you had already seen my comments and critique on a sermon preached by David Wilkerson and sent out to paying members in the body of Christ.  Think of this maybe as part two of that sermon. 

        All my comments will be in italic and the same color as these words.  By no means is this a complete commentary on the book of Joel, just an addition to other commentaries down through the centuries.  But I do feel this commentary is superior to all others.  This commentary will focus mostly on prophecy and a little more basic information.  Readers are encouraged to read and consult other commentaries and inquiries into other reference manuals and bible dictionaries to add to their personal library of interpretations so they, with great prayer and Holy Spirit can decide which is more truthful and what God is saying.

 

                                                              Joel 1:1-3:23

       The first thing we must start off with is some basic information about the book of Joel.  This information should be looked up on all books of the bible before you read them.  Here is important information. 

 

       Joel means in hebrew, the books written language, "Jehovah is God." 

      Unlike most prophetic books in the Old Testament the prophet Joel gives no indication of the date it was written, only hints of possible dates.  By traditional view the book is considered preexilic, or, before the seventy years in Babylon, one of the oldest prophetic books.  We know this by the mentioning of the main enemies, Philistines and Phoenecians, instead of the Babylonians and the Assyrians.  These traditionalists date the book around 837-800B.C, during the reign of the only boy king Joash. We also know this because no kings name or year is mentioned in the first paragraph unlike all the other prophets in the Old Testament.  

       Modern theologians consider Joel 3:5-6, [too accurate], where Joel is talking about taking temple treasures and selling the people of Judah and Jerusalem, specifically the mentioning of the Greeks whom hadn't yet arrived on the world scene.  They believe this evidence means the book was written as much as 500 years later thus postexhilic as late as 200 B.C. 

       This evidence is precarious at best and not taken by any serious theologian.  The proponents of the traditionalist view think it [not] unusual people knew the Greeks before being conquered by Alexander and the Greeks.  They knew who the Greeks were before being conquered by them.  They had already seen and heard of Greek institutions and craftsmanship. 
 

       Besides, if the book had been written postexhilic there would have been more detail here and the book would have stated Babylonians as being the ones who took the temple treasures.  In fact it doesn't state [who] took the temple treasures, only "you" took the temple treasures.  If written postexhilic evidence would almost indicate the book is fraudulent since it talks of the ones taking the temple treasures without mentioning who they were which were the Babylonians.  This view makes the writer deceptive at best.  To not mention the name of the Babylonians, when talking about something they did, something as horrible as taking the temple treasures would be taking a view that believes there are mistakes in the bible.     

         My view on date is with the majority of theologians and their preexhilic view that the book of Joel was written before Judah was swept away by the Babylonians.  Whether or not preexhilic or postexhilic doesn't matter [to me] since God did not feel the dating of this book was important.  Otherwise God would have breathed certain clues in verse one through the prophet Joel that would give indication of the date this book was written.  Maybe the important issue is not what the dating of the book is but why God didn't date it.  Maybe God is saying something by not dating it. 

        This book concerns prophecy and the coming Day of the Lord anyways.  Joel speaks of a distant future time so important even Christ stated no one knew the day or the hour, only God the Father.  My view is that maybe God is saying something here [by not] clearly stating the date God breathed His words through prophet Joel. 

       It appears after reading [all] the prophetic books that most of them are  dated by hints from God.  It becomes quite obvious when you read the first paragraph of each of the prophetic books.  Let us try it.  Here are the first paragraphs in the NIV as follows:

                                               Isaiah 1:1
       The vision concerning Judah and Jerusalem that Isaiah son of Amoz saw during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
                                              
Jeremiah 1:1-3
       The words of Jeremiah son of Hilkiah, one of the priests at Anathoth in the territory of Benjamin.2 The word of the Lord came to him in the thirteenth year of the reign of Josiah son of Amon king of Judah,3 and through the reign of Jehoikim son of Josiah king of Judah, down to the fifth month of the eleventh year of Zedekiah son of Josiah king of Judah, when the people of Jerusalem went into exile. 
                                              Ezekiel 1:1
       In the thirteenth year, in the fourth month on the fifth day, while I was among the exiles among the Kebar River, the heavens were opened and I saw visions of God.
                                             
Daniel 1:1
       In the third year of the reign of Jehoikim king of Judah, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came to Jerusalem and besieged it.2 And the Lord delivered Jehoikim king of Judah into his hand, along with some of the articles of the temple of God.  These he carried off to the temple of his god in Babylonia and put in the treasure house of his god.
                                           
Hosea 1:1
       The word of the Lord that came to Hosea son of Beeri during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, and during the reign of Jeroboam son of Jehoash king of Israel.
                                         
Joel 1:1-2
       The word of the Lord that came to Joel son of Pethuel. 
                          An Invasion of Locusts.
2 Hear this , you elders; listen, all who live in the land.  Has anything like this ever happened in your days or in the days of your forefathers? 

                                           
Amos 1:1
       The words of Amos, one of the shepherds of Tekoa--what he saw concerning Israel two years before the earthquake, when Uzziah was king of Judah and Jeroboam son of Jehoash was king of Israel.
                                           Obadiah 1:1-2
       This is what the Sovereign Lord says about Edom--- We have heard a message from the Lord: An envoy was sent to the nations to say, "Rise, and let us go against her and battle"--- 2  "See, I will make you small among the nations; you will be utterly despised.
                                           
Jonah 1:1-2
       The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai:2  "Go to the great city of Ninevah and preach against it, because it's wickedness has come up before me."
                                          
Micah 1:1
       The word of the Lord that came to Micah of Moresheth during the reigns of Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, Kings of Judah---the vision he saw concerning Samaria and Jerusalem.
                                         
Nahum 1:1
       An oracle concerning Ninevah.  The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite.
                                         
Habakkuk 1:1
       The oracle that Habakkuk the prophet received.
                                        
Zephaniah 1:1
       The word of the Lord that came to Zephaniah son of Cushi, the son of Gedaliah, the son of Amariah, the son of Hezekiah, during the reign of Josiah son of Amon king of Judah:
                                        Haggai 1:1
       In the second year of king Darius, on the first day of the sixth month, the word of the Lord came through the prophet Haggai to Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest: 
                                       
Zechariah 1:1
        In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the Lord came to the prophet Zechariah son of Berekiah, son of Iddo:
                                       Malachi 1:1
       An oracle: The word of the Lord to Israel through Malachi.

None of this matters since most all of the book is about the last generation and the "Day of the Lord," with a very small portion that begins at pentecost, Joel 2:28-30. In this context it would not be difficult for the prophet Joel to predict and mention the Greeks as such.  If Joel could predict the coming Day of the Lord almost 2800 and some years later why could Joel not predict the coming Greeks only a couple hundred years later?  Such foolishness comes from the mouths of the modern theiologians and their postexilic view.  Traditionalist theologians also state it is [likely] they still knew the Greeks even though the Greek empire had not been birthed yet.

 .       The traditionalists date the book preexhilic around the rein of the boy king Joash, 837-800B.C.  Traditionalists say this is indicative since the book never mentions any kings name and only mentions elders and priests thus a kingdom reined by a boy.  Also we must consider the book of Amos whose date is known and accepted by theologians to be 786-746B.C.   When comparing Joel 3:16 to Amos 1:2 and Joel 3:18 with Amos 9:13 gives evidence Amos was already familiar  with Joel's prophecies. 

 1 The word of the LORD that came to Joel son of Pethuel.

An Invasion of Locusts

 2 Hear this, you elders;
       listen, all who live in the land.
       Has anything like this ever happened in your days
       or in the days of your forefathers?

         This book, and the words in it, are for the elders of the different churches in the last generation, the times in which we live now.  The elders are the real power brokers behind the pastors.  They are the reason the church body of Christ is so lost today.  The elders prevent the Pastors from preaching the truth by controlling their paychecks.  The elders do not allow the flow of Holy Spirit for proper interpretation of scripture.  God is telling them to open their ears because they are plugged up, says, "Hear this."  God is saying something very major is coming, something no one can believe.  Also, there is no mention of king here or the year in the reign of any king like is in most all Old Testament books on prophecy.  The traditionalists claim this indicates the writing of the book of Joel was during the reign of the boy king Joash.  But there is also a duel meaning about elders during our time now as I said.

 3 Tell it to your children,
       and let your children tell it to their children,
       and their children to the next generation.

       This means it is a warning for a distant future generation, the last generation, (see chapter 2&3). 

 4 What the locust swarm has left
       the great locusts have eaten;
       what the great locusts have left
       the young locusts have eaten;
       what the young locusts have left
       other locusts [a] have eaten.

       Like locusts the things coming will eat everything good up, leaving nothing good left.  Locusts never labor to produce anything, never labor to gather and store up like squirrels or bears.  They never stay in the same place, always striking out into other territory.  They appear overnight all at once.  They attack the stability and goodness human agriculture brings to all mankind.  They attack in swarms that gorge themselves all at the same time.  They especially attack organized agriculture more then fruit that grows in the wild.  Locusts increase the labor of good men in working the soil requiring additional working of the soil for food production. 

 5 Wake up, you drunkards, and weep!
       Wail, all you drinkers of wine;
       wail because of the new wine,
       for it has been snatched from your lips.

       Wake Up! Wake Up the ten virgins!  Everyone will be eating and drinking unaware of what is coming.  Unaware that judgment is coming.  The new wine is representative to a new dispensation upon God's people, God's followers.  God says to wake up!

 6 A nation has invaded my land,
       powerful and without number;
       it has the teeth of a lion,
       the fangs of a lioness.

 7 It has laid waste my vines
       and ruined my fig trees.
       It has stripped off their bark
       and thrown it away,
       leaving their branches white.

       Notice locusts and nation are used interchangeably here and there in chapter 1.  Joel says this locust like nation defeats other nations by invading in a way that no one knows they are invading.  Like immigration for instance.  It has laid waste to God's vines, Christianity, and God's fig trees, Israel and Judah.  These locusts like lions are predators.  

 8 Mourn like a virgin [b] in sackcloth
       grieving for the husband [c] of her youth.

        Repent and weep as a God follower and one of the ten virgins with jars of oil for their lamps.  Weep and grieve becoming one of the five with jars of oil.  Grieve everyone of God's followers for closeness to God.  Weep for a time when you were close to God, for God's returning presence, change your life now overcoming sin, becoming [like] a person having never turned away from God, like a virgin.

 9 Grain offerings and drink offerings
       are cut off from the house of the LORD.
       The priests are in mourning,
       those who minister before the LORD.

 10 The fields are ruined,
       the ground is dried up [d] ;
       the grain is destroyed,
       the new wine is dried up,
       the oil fails.

      
       Unfortunately, most will not repent in the end times.  The grain offering is an offering made by fire.  It is to be bread cakes made of flour and oil with no yeast or honey.  Only a portion of the grain offering was consumed by the fire, tribulation. This grain represents all of God's followers in the end of age, final harvest of the souls of the earth.   There is to be no phariseeism, man's teaching in this offering.  There is to be no Judaisers either.  They are to be pure moist wheat, no dry chaff.  The chaff is to be thrown into the fire. 
       The drink offering was wine poured out on the alter over the sacrifice.  This would prevent the sacrifice from being too overly consumed by the fire, judgment.  The wine represents the spilled blood of Jesus Christ.  The bread is mankind.  Drink offerings never accompanied sin and guilt offerings.
       This will be at a time that the latter day rains will stop, outpouring of Holy Spirit will stop, the successful spreading of the gospel will stop, making of new wine, growth through the Holy Spirit will stop, many people's hearts within the church will become very dry lacking of Holy Spirit's presence.  The harvest fields will stop and be ruined because of the locusts.    

       Their prayers will not be accepted by God.  Their hearts will be dry, their wealth and blessings will be taken away. 

 11 Despair, you farmers,
       wail, you vine growers;
       grieve for the wheat and the barley,
       because the harvest of the field is destroyed.

 12 The vine is dried up
       and the fig tree is withered;
       the pomegranate, the palm and the apple tree—
       all the trees of the field—are dried up.
       Surely the joy of mankind
       is withered away.

       Wheat, a main staple of bread for the gentiles.  Barley, a main staple of bread for the Hebrews.  The invading nation will take all the wealth, all the food, even the spirit they will quench.  The end result of Christianity, (vine) and the fig tree, Israel, will be the same, a failure to place God's words to mankind on a high pedestal for all to see.  Despair you pastors, farmers, and missionaries, vine growers and grieve for the time of spreading the gospel is almost over and the time for the angels to harvest is almost here. 

       The joy of mankind and his building of that great city, the best man can do, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the earth, America has withered away never to be regained nor refound.  No more joy, only God's wrath and judgment left.  
 

A Call to Repentance

 13 Put on sackcloth, O priests, and mourn;
       wail, you who minister before the altar.
       Come, spend the night in sackcloth,
       you who minister before my God;
       for the grain offerings and drink offerings
       are withheld from the house of your God.

 14 Declare a holy fast;
       call a sacred assembly.
       Summon the elders
       and all who live in the land
       to the house of the LORD your God,
       and cry out to the LORD.

       Those who are wise will be weeping, repenting and teaching many.  But they will keep weeping because no one will listen.  They will declare a holy fast and call a sacred assembly to all who follow God but no one will listen.  But God will also call a sacred assembly and summon the true elders and the God followers at the rapture.

 15 Alas for that day!
       For the day of the LORD is near;
       it will come like destruction from the Almighty. [e]

       This Day of the Lord, is the day Christ comes back for rapture and last 6-7 years of the twenty year tribulation, judgment and thousand year millennium.  Destruction in the beginning and dwelling with heavenly beings and Jesus Christ in the city God built, New Jerusalem for 980 years.   

 16 Has not the food been cut off
       before our very eyes—
       joy and gladness
       from the house of our God?

 17 The seeds are shriveled
       beneath the clods. [f]
       The storehouses are in ruins,
       the granaries have been broken down,
       for the grain has dried up.

The food is teaching from God.  Churches will become illegal for it will be after the rapture and the Antichrist Islamic nations will rule the earth for a short time.  No longer will it be easy to follow God since most all of the godly will disappear in the rapture.  Bibles, food,  will become illegal and it will become difficult to become joyful and glad for all church buildings will be taken over by agents of the Antichrist.  The ones who missed the rapture and realize it will shrivel from lack of being fed by God's true followers who are gone, raptured.  The storehouses will be in ruins and broken.  These are the church buildings.  The riots after the rapture encouraged by the Antichrist will result in destruction of many church buildings, others used as headquarters for local chapters of christian haters.
 18 How the cattle moan!
       The herds mill about
       because they have no pasture;
       even the flocks of sheep are suffering.

 19 To you, O LORD, I call,
       for fire has devoured the open pastures
       and flames have burned up all the trees of the field.

        20 Even the wild animals pant for you;
       the streams of water have dried up
       and fire has devoured the open pastures.

        The next judgment will be by fire, thus verse 19 & 20.  Worldwide famine during Spotted and striped sheep portion of tribulation, thus verse 17.  Everything will quit producing.  

Joel 2

An Army of Locusts

 1 Blow the trumpet in Zion;
       sound the alarm on my holy hill.
       Let all who live in the land tremble,
       for the day of the LORD is coming.
       It is close at hand-

 2 a day of darkness and gloom,
       a day of clouds and blackness.
       Like dawn spreading across the mountains
       a large and mighty army comes,
       such as never was of old
       nor ever will be in ages to come.

        Blow the trumpet for the world will needs to be warned of the coming locust like army invaders.  This army will take over the world and God says to blow the trumpet in Zion.  Zion is in our hearts.  Rend and tear our hearts.  Blow the trumpet in our heart.  The Locust army is Islam.  The antichrist armies are Islam.  Islam's desire is to force the world to submit to Islam by force.  The antichrist nations are given authority for 43.66 years or authority for one hour in God's eyes.  Islam will come about 36 years before the beginning of the last third part of tribulation.  Islam will send warriors all over the world that will spread like a dark cloud of locusts that feed on the nations they consume.  This is a dark sad day for judgment of mankind occurs. 

 3 Before them fire devours,
       behind them a flame blazes.
       Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
       behind them, a desert waste—
       nothing escapes them.

       This Islamic locust like invading army defeats it's enemies by fire, [nukes] going before them.  This fire is most likely nuclear explosions.  This locust like people group will come from an area of the earth where the garden of eden used to be, Iran & Iraq.  For the Garden of Eden is behind them.  Most theologians agree the original Garden of Eden is somewhere around where modern Iran and Iraq are today.  This also says wherever this locust army goes everything is destroyed and becomes desert.

 4 They have the appearance of horses;
       they gallop along like cavalry.

       The only war machines Joel knew of in 800B.C. were horses and cavalry.  Any proper army during this time had to have horses dressed with the armor of cavalry.  So he describes it as like things he knows are used in war, horses & cavalry.

 5 With a noise like that of chariots
       they leap over the mountaintops,
       like a crackling fire consuming stubble,
       like a mighty army drawn up for battle.

       Noise of chariots are the noise of war!  Leaping over the mountaintops like a crackling fire consuming stubble sounds a lot like nukes on missiles to me!  Army at battle.  These are not locusts but the last army of man people!   

 6 At the sight of them, nations are in anguish;
       every face turns pale.

        They turned pale because they were not ready, they did not expect to be overthrown.  Only lighter skinned people are capable of turning pale so this seems to indicate caucasians especially. 

 7 They charge like warriors;
       they scale walls like soldiers.
       They all march in line,
       not swerving from their course.

       This sounds to me like fascism, especially Islamic fascism.  They are any generals dream soldier.  Those that jostle or swerve are severely and quickly punished. 

 8 They do not jostle each other;
       each marches straight ahead.
       They plunge through defenses
       without breaking ranks.

       Suicide bombers plunging through defenses without breaking ranks. They follow their leaders without breaking ranks, without questioning right and wrong.  This questioning and challenging of the truth of leadership is required for nations and leadership to reform.

 9 They rush upon the city;
       they run along the wall.
       They climb into the houses;
       like thieves they enter through the windows.

        This description here is a perfect description of the same ones that defeat Babylon the Great, America.  Also the coming Islamic antichrist kingdoms.  Verse 7 says they charge like warriors not swerving off course.  This means they do not challenge what their leaders teach or say.  They are the perfect warriors to take over the world.  They are the antichrist nations.  This is Islam pure and simple.  Verse 8 says they do not jostle each other and plunge through defenses and never breaking ranks.  Verse 9 describes them plundering innocent civilians.  They enter the nations they defeat by unlawful means.  They sneak into those they conquer without the awareness of those countries leaders.  They surprise the ones they conquer like a thief does.  These three verses describe with perfect accuracy the islamic antichrist kingdoms. 

 10 Before them the earth shakes,
       the sky trembles,
       the sun and moon are darkened,
       and the stars no longer shine.

        As fire goes before them the earth trembles and shakes before them.  This sounds like nukes.  Sun and moon darkened and stars do not shine.  When nukes explode a huge amount of dust is stirred up in the city so that in the day time everything darkens.

 11 The LORD thunders
       at the head of his army;
       his forces are beyond number,
       and mighty are those who obey his command.
       The day of the LORD is great;
       it is dreadful.
       Who can endure it?

       The world dictatorship of the Islamic antichrist kingdoms authority will eventually end.  This end will come sometimes around the years 2018-2019.  For who can beat the Lord's army?  This Day of the Lord is also the 1000 year millennium, also the Day of Rest for mankind and all creation. 

Rend Your Heart

 12 "Even now," declares the LORD,
       "return to me with all your heart,
       with fasting and weeping and mourning."

       Rend means tear your heart.Heart is muscle and muscle grows when torn.  To have a bigger heart you must weep for the lost.  Tear your heart and weep for the people that will be thrown in the lake of fire.  Rend your hearts and weep for the those that are lost.  Weep and rend your hearts and weep more.  Grow your heart by tearing it and fasting for the lost.  Look on the masses as God does and weep for the God followers.  Fasting also includes praying.  Any true return to god involves repentance and weeping.  Weep for what is coming to all people, God's judgment.

 13 Rend your heart
       and not your garments.
       Return to the LORD your God,
       for he is gracious and compassionate,
       slow to anger and abounding in love,
       and he relents from sending calamity.

       Instead of tearing your clothes, tear your heart/fast and repent.  We are not clean by wearing white robes as teachers of the law teach.  It is what are in our hearts that make us clean.  So tear your hearts and clean them with fasting and prayer.  For we must change on the inside not the outside things.  It is our hearts that god wants, our true selves.  For it is your heart that must be torn to become soft.   

 14 Who knows? He may turn and have pity
       and leave behind a blessing—
       grain offerings and drink offerings
       for the LORD your God.

        The blessing God leaves behind are 1/2 of God's followers, 1/2 the church to go through the spotted and striped sheep portion of tribulation with the nation of Israel.  The five virgins with no jars of oil will witness first to the Jewish nation of Israel.  They are called by God to be martyrs for truth, the light for the darkness.

 15 Blow the trumpet in Zion,
       declare a holy fast,
       call a sacred assembly.

 16 Gather the people,
       consecrate the assembly;
       bring together the elders,
       gather the children,
       those nursing at the breast.
       Let the bridegroom leave his room
       and the bride her chamber.

       Warn your heart.  Wake Up! Wake Up!  These two verses above are the rapture of the five virgins, 50% of the christians of the earth whom have oil in their jars.Gather the people and get ready for God will soon return to you!  The Bridegroom is already on His way so Wake Up!  Wake Up!  Trim the lamps and get your oil jars!  Start looking for God.

 17 Let the priests, who minister before the LORD,
       weep between the temple porch and the altar.
       Let them say, "Spare your people, O LORD.
       Do not make your inheritance an object of scorn,
       a byword among the nations.
       Why should they say among the peoples,
       'Where is their God?' "

       Verse 17 speaks to the tribulation saints.  The spotted and striped sheep portion of tribulation involves people all over the world repenting and coming back to God.  This will be the five virgins that do not have jars of oil, left behind in tribulation, and the nation of Israel that gets saved during tribulation.  This also includes the huge amount of people turning back to god and waking up during tribulation.  All of this rending or tearing of hearts, to make them soft so God can enter.  This rending and tearing will result in praying and turning back to follow God.  The tribulation will purify the saints, the five virgins without oil in jars left behind and God's chosen Israel. 

The LORD's Answer

 18 Then the LORD will be jealous for his land
       and take pity on his people.

 19 The LORD will reply [g] to them:
       "I am sending you grain, new wine and oil,
       enough to satisfy you fully;
       never again will I make you
       an object of scorn to the nations.

Never again means exactly that.  Never again.  God is speaking of a distant future time of final redemption of his chosen people, Israel.  The grain God is sending to Israel is the five virgins that have no jars of oil and miss the rapture.  The oil they bring is Holy Spirit to Israel to realize they crucified the true Messiah, Jesus Christ.  The new wine is a born again experience for Israel.

 20 "I will drive the northern army far from you,
       pushing it into a parched and barren land,
       with its front columns going into the eastern sea [h]
       and those in the rear into the western sea. [i]
       And its stench will go up;
       its smell will rise."
       Surely he has done great things. [j]

 21 Be not afraid, O land;
       be glad and rejoice.
       Surely the LORD has done great things.

The Islamic and Russian armies supernaturally flee in terror into the Eastern Sea, Mediterranean Sea, and Western Sea, Dead Sea.  Many many will die and cause a great stench of death. 

 22 Be not afraid, O wild animals,
       for the open pastures are becoming green.
       The trees are bearing their fruit;
       the fig tree and the vine yield their riches.

Soon all the wild animals will no longer eat meat and the lion will play with the sheep without trying to eat it.  Trees everywhere will start soon bearing more larger fruit without man having to work the ground.  The fig tree is God's chosen people Israel, the vine is Jesus Christ and the church.  God's purpose will be accomplished soon and great fruit and harvest will come. 

 23 Be glad, O people of Zion,
       rejoice in the LORD your God,
       for he has given you
       the autumn rains in righteousness. [k]
       He sends you abundant showers,
       both autumn and spring rains, as before.

 24 The threshing floors will be filled with grain;
       the vats will overflow with new wine and oil.

The grain are the God followers.  The vats will overflow with God's presence.  The showers are Holy Spirit upon Tribulation Saints, Messianic Jews and the five virgins with no jars.
 
25 "I will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten—
       the great locust and the young locust,
       the other locusts and the locust swarm [l]
       my great army that I sent among you.

 26 You will have plenty to eat, until you are full,
       and you will praise the name of the LORD your God,
       who has worked wonders for you;
       never again will my people be shamed.

 27 Then you will know that I am in Israel,
       that I am the LORD your God,
       and that there is no other;
       never again will my people be shamed.

       Islam has eaten the years of Israel since 1975 and God says Israel will be repaid for this torment for it was God's will.  During this last third of tribulation Israel will have plenty to eat, food and spiritual manna, until full.  They will get this probably from christians. 

Then Israel will know Christ was God. This is all toward the very end of tribulation when God starts to restore everything in creation.

The Day of the LORD

 28 "And afterward,
       I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
       Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
       your old men will dream dreams,
       your young men will see visions.

 29 Even on my servants, both men and women,
       I will pour out my Spirit in those days.

       Verse 28-29,  When these verses are compared to Acts 2:16-21 we notice that Peter adds six words of prefactory interpretation, verses 28-32, "In the last days, 'God says.' " So who am I to contend with Peter's interpretation?  So according to Peter, these verses cover the last two days, an approximate two thousand year period till a period when all prophecy ends, 2018-2019, the end of "The Time of Jacob's Trouble," see serman: Time Of Jacob's Trouble  at the second ressurrection, also the beginning of the 1000 year millenium Sabbath day of rest for man and heavenly beings.  All tribulation saints during tribulation will be like superman preachers, like great witnsses to all the people of the world.  Verse 28 is the most difficult verse in Joel I have ever had to interpret.  On the one hand verse 28-32 is quoted by the Apostle Peter at 9am on the Day of Pentecost right after the 3000 were filled with the Holy Spirit, Acts 2:16-21.  I must admit I was stuck on this quite some time for there seemed to always be a contradiction there.  Holy Spirit revealed to me that Peter used the words, [In the last days & in those days], in both verses seventeen and eighteen.  The words Peter used are plural meaning more then one day.  When we compare this to Peter's teaching in 2nd Peter 3:8-9 we realize that Peter is talking about what I call the 1000 years equals one day in God's eyes prophecy.  God teaches mankind through history and fulfillment of literal prophecy.  No prophecy has ever been fulfilled symbolically which is why we should always attempt to avoid symbolic interpretations.  Scripture should always reveal scripture.  This always results in a superior translation.  Remember a literal translation is always a superior one and that is the case here.  

       So according to Peter the Apostle the last days are the last 2000 years, last days in God's eyes, last days are not the same as the End Time mentioned by the angel to the prophet Daniel.  This prophet was told by the angel to seal up the meaning of the book until the [End of time].  The end of time began with fulfillment of the Fig Tree Prophecy when Israel returned and became a nation in 1948.  This is approximately when the 70 year prophecy stopwatch started ticking.  

 30 I will show wonders in the heavens
       and on the earth,
       blood and fire and billows of smoke.

 31 The sun will be turned to darkness
       and the moon to blood
       before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.

       Appears to be nuclear annihilation in verse 31-32 with 1/3 of the world killed by the plagues of fire, (Revelation 9:14-16).  The wonders will be the fulfillment of scripture, and wonders in creation. The darkening of sun and moon from Nuclear war and judgement of God. 

 32 And everyone who calls
       on the name of the LORD will be saved;
       for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
       there will be deliverance,
       as the LORD has said,
       among the survivors
       whom the LORD calls.

       During the Spotted and Striped Sheep portion of tribulation.  Everyone means everyone, including those left behind that missed the mark; scripture seems to indicate this anyways.  Possibly those who took the mark on the hand might be saved if they chop their hand off and repent.Those who have the mark on their head and are beheaded for their testimony of Jes-s Chr-st might be saved upon being beheaded as a martyr for G-d as witness.

Joel 3

The Nations Judged

 1 "In those days and at that time,
       when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,

Those swept to Babylon whom later became known as Israel today.


 2 I will gather all nations
       and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. [m]
       There I will enter into judgment against them
       concerning my inheritance, my people Israel,
       for they scattered my people among the nations
       and divided up my land.

 3
They cast lots for my people
       and traded boys for prostitutes;
       they sold girls for wine
       that they might drink.

This is The Valley of Judgement of mankind.  All nations will be brought to the valley for world war, the valley of Armageddon. 

 4 "Now what have you against me, O Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done. 5 For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples. 6 You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem to the Greeks, that you might send them far from their homeland.

 7 "See, I am going to rouse them out of the places to which you sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8 I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away." The LORD has spoken.

This is judgment by God of all the people that did not choose to follow God.  World War 3 will occur in the middle east Islamic nations in the valley of Armegeddon.

 9 Proclaim this among the nations:
       Prepare for war!
       Rouse the warriors!
       Let all the fighting men draw near and attack.

 10 Beat your plowshares into swords
       and your pruning hooks into spears.
       Let the weakling say,
       "I am strong!"

 11 Come quickly, all you nations from every side,
       and assemble there.
       Bring down your warriors, O LORD!

 12 "Let the nations be roused;
       let them advance into the Valley of Jehoshaphat,
       for there I will sit
       to judge all the nations on every side.
 

All nations will come to the Valley of Armageddon.  Suicide bombers everywhere and blood to the horse's bridle!

 13 Swing the sickle,
       for the harvest is ripe.
       Come, trample the grapes,
       for the winepress is full
       and the vats overflow—
       so great is their wickedness!"

The separation of the chafe and wheat!  The chafe will be thrown in the fire that will never quench!  trample the grapes you angels!  The threshing floor is here!  Throw the wicked into the fire!

 14 Multitudes, multitudes
       in the valley of decision!
       For the day of the LORD is near
       in the valley of decision.

So decide, will you follow God or reject Jesus Christ?

 15 The sun and moon will be darkened,
       and the stars no longer shine.

 16 The LORD will roar from Zion
       and thunder from Jerusalem;
       the earth and the sky will tremble.
       But the LORD will be a refuge for his people,
       a stronghold for the people of Israel.

The sun and moon and stars cannot be seen because of all the nukes being blown up, or, from God's will.  Probably both. 

Blessings for God's People

 17 "Then you will know that I, the LORD your God,
       dwell in Zion, my holy hill.
       Jerusalem will be holy;
       never again will foreigners invade her.

 18 "In that day the mountains will drip new wine,
       and the hills will flow with milk;
       all the ravines of Judah will run with water.
       A fountain will flow out of the LORD's house
       and will water the valley of acacias. [n]

 19 But Egypt will be desolate,
       Edom a desert waste,
       because of violence done to the people of Judah,
       in whose land they shed innocent blood.

 20 Judah will be inhabited forever
       and Jerusalem through all generations.

 21 Their bloodguilt, which I have not pardoned,
       I will pardon."
       The LORD dwells in Zion!

New Jerusalem will come down from heaven to earth.  The Thousand year millennium will start.  Rein on earth with Christ for 1000 years.  The Lion will play with the lamb and land will bear fruit without toil again.  This fruit will have super nutrients that will change the desire for meat.  No longer will we eat meat.  No longer the desire.  The fruit will give enough energy without meat.  Praise God!


Footnotes:

  1. Joel 1:4 The precise meaning of the four Hebrew words used here for locusts is uncertain.
  2. Joel 1:8 Or young woman
  3. Joel 1:8 Or betrothed
  4. Joel 1:10 Or ground mourns
  5. Joel 1:15 Hebrew Shaddai
  6. Joel 1:17 The meaning of the Hebrew for this word is uncertain.
  7. Joel 2:19 Or LORD was jealous ? / and took pity ? / 19 The LORD replied
  8. Joel 2:20 That is, the Dead Sea
  9. Joel 2:20 That is, the Mediterranean
  10. Joel 2:20 Or rise. / Surely it has done great things."
  11. Joel 2:23 Or / the teacher for righteousness:
  12. Joel 2:25 The precise meaning of the four Hebrew words used here for locusts is uncertain.
  13. Joel 3:2 Jehoshaphat means the LORD judges ; also in verse 12.
  14. Joel 3:18 Or Valley of Shittim


Sunday, March 15, 2009

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The Time Of Jacob's Trouble

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                                           Author's Preface

       Here's a sermon from the archives I posted in October 2006. It has been improved with some additional scriptural quotes, revealed through revelation from God, but the basic message is the same. This prophecy is based upon the bible using two different terms synonymously, "The Time of Jacob's Trouble," and the "Tribulation."  Since God used these two statements synonymously, it is not a stretch to extrapolate a completely different then the traditional prophetic meaning to what is thought of as the period of "Tribulation," or the, "Time of Jacob's Trouble," when we carefully read Genesis 28:1-33:17.  

       Although I will quote scripture here, please get your bibles and concordances out, lets all follow along together.  This is only commentary on an interpretation I give you, but don't take my word and add to God's words. God gave you a bible for a reason. Do the hard work required to determine truth revealing new revelation resulting in an increased vision during these times of great trials.   I am not a Reverend, a Rabbi or Teacher, so always remember Christ taught we are all brothers and sisters, never to place ourselves above each other in the church body. That goes especially for you Preachers, Elders and Deacons. Don't forget your calling to servanthood. For if Christ is the head can anyone add words to absolute truth by heaping heavy burdens upon men's shoulders to line many pockets already full? 

       My view is just a man's view in a long line of commentaries on the bible, many times found later to be wrong. My intention is not to replace the bible or revelation from Holy Spirit that can only come from the hard work of seeking truth by the diligent reading of this love letter to mankind from Lord Almighty. My only intention is to share what the Lord Almighty revealed to me after much prayer, much seeking and reading of His holy words.

       So please make sure you have your bibles with you, following along, always double checking, always praying about the many scriptural quotes I give you, carefully meditating with prayer and the fear of God. I say this in all humbleness and fear of the fulfillment of Revelation 22:18-19. 

       Lets break bread, by reading this scripture that most should heed, but few do, instead  placing [their] words above God's words by exalting themselves instead above the word of God. Let us not follow the words of men nor add words to God's words. May we all repent by purifying our hearts, putting salve on our wounds to grow in the wisdom that comes from the fear of God. 

                                 Revelation 22:18-19 NIV

       18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book:  If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy. God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. 

       Get ready, for the end is coming soon, even upon us [at] this very hour. Be of good cheer all you tribulation saints and those that are chosen for the first Wedding Banquet , always watching, always praying, to be counted worthy in a time of trouble, even shining brightly as wisdom dictates during this dark hour, setting yourselves like upon a high pedestal for all to see the way out. Shine bright as the brightest stars. May your light be seen by many during this last hour, always filled in spirit and joy with Holy Spirit, always ready with answers, so when, nonbelievers cross your path, [they] will experience God's truth with overflowing joy from your heart, allowing even you, begging you, to quickly snatch them up, rescuing them, for this is God's love through his only begotten son, protecting them from the fiery river flowing to the lake of fire, that they didn't even know they were in. 

       How long do you think the tribulation will be?  What is your scriptural evidence? Do you follow man's words or God's words?  Scriptural evidence shows that tribulation will be 20 years, not a seven year period as we are told. We are right now in the twelfth year, or the beginning of the 5th year of the Rachel portion,  rapture estimated around 2011, according to the 70 year prophecy: Seventy Years Prophecy Part 1  Seventy Years Prophecy Part 2  Seventy Years Prophecy Part 3  Seventy Years Prophecy Part 4   Sorry these last four sermons are not combined but please study all four sermons for this prophecy takes a lot of effort before Holy Spirit reveals.  Not many are meant to know when the end is but hey, who knows, maybe your one of them eh?

Here is my scriptural evidence for the Twenty Year Tribulation prophecy. This sermon is a work in progress. 

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 The Time Of Jacob's Trouble

               a Twenty Year Period Not Seven Years

                              General Preface

The Time of Jacob's Trouble, Jeremiah 30:3, 30:7, Zephaniah 1:15, Job 38:22-23, is thought of by many as a time of tribulation  and great distress the world, especialy for the Christians and Jews.  Lets all break bread and read scripture as a beginning of our study on , The Time of Jacob's Trouble.

                                                Jeremiah 30:3 NIV 

       "The days are coming," declares the Lord, "when I will bring my people Israel and Judah back from captivity and restore them to the land I gave their forefathers to possess," says the Lord.

                                                Jeremiah 30:7 NIV

       How awful that day will be!  None will be like it.  It will be a time of trouble for Jacob, but he will be saved out of it.

The day is the, "Day of the Lord."  This is tribulation, this is also the time of Jacob's trouble, for this period is the same. 

                                                                  Zephaniah 1:15

       That day will be a day of wrath, a day of distress and anguish, a day of trouble and ruin, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness,

The day of wrath and day of trouble are also the time of Jacob's trouble, known as tribulation.  This time will be dark, gloomy with a lot of dark black clouds filled with snow and hail. 

                                       Job 38:22-23 NIV

     22 "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail, 23 which I reserve for times of trouble, for days of war and battle?" 

God has storehouses of snow and huge hailstones of about one hundred pounds each reserved specifically for these times, in a plague of hail that falls on all men causing them to curse God, Revelation 16:21. There will be no global warming for the earth from here on willl be colder thn normal.

                                                  Revelation 16:21 NIV 

      21 From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon man.  And they cursed god on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.

This is how it will be during that last part of Jacob's trouble, very very cold.  Global warming will not be anywhere to be seen, a lot of snow, a lot of hail, even a lot of 100 pound chunks of ice falling from the heavens.  These could be pure ice from the Lord's judgment upon mankind or bits and pieces of the massive 170,000 pieces of floating debri in space from the many satellites and garbage that have been from the many space agencies all over the world.  When these fall to earth ice covers them.

       This is the time right after God brings Judah and Israel back from the nations to be restored as one nation called Israel again,  Jeremiah 30:3All of Jeremiah chapter 30 is about this horrible time at the end of age called, "The Time of Jacob's Trouble", this also being the time we live in today.  God calls the period we think of as "Tribulation", the "Time of Jacob's Trouble."  God uses these statements synonymously. Most think of this as a time in which we may escape being taken by the rapture, Matthew 24:39-41, and then a seven year judgment of mankind, this seven year period called tribulation by most.  But scriptural prophecy does not support this seven year period.  For the time of Jacob's trouble was a twenty year period, not a seven year period.  Since these two periods are the same period then the key to interpreting this important prophecy is to actually study the life of Jacob [to know] how long the Time of Jacob's trouble actually was.  I know I know, I can just hear you all sitting there, shaking your heads with your arms folded on your chest saying, "But Pastor, everyone knows that tribulation is a seven year period."   T03506 Babel Tower by www.PDImages.com

       "Yes and no," I am telling you.  "God reveals the end from the beginning," Isaiah 46:10. 

                     Isaiah 46:10 NIV

       I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times to what is still to come.  I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.

       He speaks through those he chooses, prophets of old and today witnesses, in unexpected ways, unexpected typecasts, unexpected repeats, unexpected shadows, and, in many many instances others do not even consider prophecy.  Only in rare circumstances does God speak through the ones church leaders, man's selected qualified men, spiritually educated that men think are qualified enough.  God always speaks through those things & people unexpected by men, like Abraham was unexpected by Sarah and his nephew Lot, Isaac's blessing of Jacob unexpected by Esau, Jacob's visit unexpected by Laban and sons, like Joseph and his coat of colors were unexpected by the eleven others and Egypt, like the burning bush & God's presence unexpected by Moses, like Moses & God's judgment were unexpected by Pharaoh and the Egyptian he killed, like Aaron and a stuttering redeemer named Moses were unexpected by the Israelites, like the plagues and Judgements were unexpected by the Egyptians, like the parting and closing of the Red Sea were unexpected by the Israelites & Egyptian army, like Joshua and the anger struck rock were unexpected by Moses, like Joshua and the parted Jordan river were unexpected by Israel, like like Joshua and Israel were unexpected by Jericho and the Canaanites, harp playing David unexpected by Goliath and King Saul, David 's selection unexpected by David's father, brothers and Prophet Samuel, David's courage unexpected by Goliath and the Philistines, David's underwear dance before the Ark of the Covenant unexpected by the Jerusalem nobel class, like the Prophet Nathan and Bathsheba unexpected by king David, like Solomon's kingship unexpected by David's other sons, like Solomon's arrogance and wisdom unexpected by Israel, like Elijah and Elisha unexpected by Israel & Jezebel, like Jonah and storm unexpected by the ship merchants- whale and Ninevah, like Prophet Joel unexpected by Israel and Judah, Prophet Amos unexpected because he was only a shepherd and fig tree caretaker, like Prophet Hosea was unexpected because he had an adulterous wife and children that didn't believe, like Assyria was unexpected by Samaria, like Isaiah was unexpected by Judah, Jerusalem and King Manasseh, like King Josiah's death was unexpected by Judah and Jeremiah, like Jeremiah was unexpected by Judah & Jerusalem, like Nebuchadnezzar was unexpected by Egypt, Jerusalem and Judah, like Daniel and friends were unexpected by Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon's wise men, like Ezekiel unexpected by Daniel, like Cyrus king of Persia unexpected by Babylon and her slaves, like King Cyrus's decree unexpected by Ezra and exiles, Esther unexpected by Persia and Media, John the Baptist unexpected by king Herod, Birth of Christ the Messiah expected by King Herod and all mankind, for all expected the messiah, but no one could figure out where he was until his ministry was already among them.                        

As a witness to God's words I can tell you this seven year tribulation is not exactly correct, and I can back it up with scripture.NJIpkqtvN9xonZtlJ6AbQQ2kGvgeL3nb00A0

       We know God speaks to all the God followers through typecasts and repeats and shadows.  "What does this mean?", Some may ask.   Well for one thing look at all the hints of the coming messiah, the Christ from the beginning of time. 

       God is the Alpha and Omega.  Scripture says that God reveals the end in the beginning ,Isaiah 46:10.  So to understand tribulation there must be something in the beginning of the Old Testament that will help us understand time of the end prophecy on tribulation. 

                                                                                                               She surrenders, her towers fall...,Jeremiah 50:15  

       The actual time of Jacob's trouble was a twenty year period coming right after Jacob tricked his father and brother by gluing some fur on his arm so his blind old father Isaac would bless him instead of his ungodly brother Esaunoaa1cXSdI1nHlo60

       Jacob's mother told him to quicky flee to her brother Laban`s since Esau was angry with a plan to kill him.  Upon Rebbecca's urging, Jacob fled in the middle of the night. She hurried him off.  When Jacob arrived to Bethel which used to be called Luz, the land just before where Laban dwelled he slept with his head on a rock.  It was at this place Asleep with his head on a rock Jacob had a dream of a staircase going from the earth all the way to heaven with angels going up and down and the Lord standing at the top of the staircase.  Jacob called this place the house of God with the gate to heaven. 

       Jacob labors as a shepherd for Laban 14 years for food and shelter only & the marriage of two virgins, 1st seven years for Rachel but tricked and received Leah instead, seven years again for Rachel the chosen one.  Jacob wants Laban's virgin daughter Rachel as wife and agrees to an oral contract to stay there and work for seven years to marry Rachel.  After working seven years to redeem her he marries her late at night waking up in the morning realizing he was deceived and actually married her older sister. Upset he went to Laban.  Laban insultingly stated he had to marry his older daughter first because that was the custom, but, offering Jacob he could marry Rachel after working for an additional seven years for food and shelter only. Jacob graciously agrees and another seven years pass. He finally marries his first love Rachel. After he finally marries Rachel he decides that 14 years of work with no pay needs to end and he must leave and go start his own life.  Laban not wanting to lose the shepherd that made him wealthy negotiates an additional six year shepherd oral contract in which Jacob would receive all the sheep and other farm animals that were considered dirty and unwanted, namely all the speckled, spotted, striped and brown colored's of the farm herds.  Laban thought this was a real good deal since he knew from experience not many were like this.  Then Jacob led by the Lord placed striped branches from being peeled in the watering troughs where they drank, near the trees at the river where they mated.  He would place the stronger females in heat to see these branches when they would mate.  Eventually most all of the flock was Jacob's and Laban's sons started to want to kill jacob out of jealousy.  Then they decide to escape and leave in the middle of the night, Rachel stealing her father's idols, being caught by Laban and his other children.  They threaten them, make up. 

If this story is a typecast or shadow of things to come I can conclude many future prophetic events that God's people can use as wisdom of how to live.

1.)  The time of Jacob's trouble is for twenty years and not seven.  This Time of Jacob's Trouble is used synonymously in the bible with: Day of the Lord, Day of Wrath, Day of Judgment, Second Coming and Tribulation, Day of redemption of creation, Day of Redemption of Mankind, Day of Great Harvest, Day of Thrashing Floor Harvest, Separation of Wheat from Chaff.  We can also call this the day Christ redeems his Gentile and Jewish virgin brides through the Time of Jacob's trouble.  Well this period called the Time of Jacob's Trouble is a twenty year period of trouble Jacob had redeeming his two lovely brides from slavery, the first that became last and the last that was first, Jeremiah 30:7, Zephaniah 1:15, Genesis 28:16--31:55; 31:41; 29:18; 29:26; 29:29-31.  For Jacob redeemed these two lovely brides, and handmaidens by paying a heavy price  like Christ,  to redeem them from slavery, for they themselves stated they were enslaved in their own father's household, Genesis 31:14-16noaaqSziE4mwSjs6838 This is actually very logical if you think about it.  For Jacob tricks his evil uncle Laban into getting most of the flock during the great harvest, taking only those with defects, speckled, spotted. striped and discolored sheep, Genesis 30:32-35.  If the last twenty years is the time of Jacob's Trouble or Tribulation period for God's followers and all creation, how can we break this period up into understandable terms we may use to discuss theologically?  So there are three periods of tribulation, not one.  They are as follows;

   Three Periods of Tribulation that started in 1998

1st)  The 7 year Leah tribulation period, first seven years. This represents the gentiles for they came to Christ first. 

2nd)  The 7 year Rachel tribulation period, second seven years ends with rapture. This represents Israel.  

3rd)  The 6 year spotted striped & blemished sheep great harvest period.  During this last harvest period Jesus Christ harvests so many that turn to God Satan and his demons get so upset thinking they were tricked.  This is the thrashing floor great harvest periodendtimesbegan[1].

It appears we are toward the end of

          the 7 year Rachel period but that is for another sermon. 

     This seven year period just before the rapture, before spotted , speckled and striped sheep and goats portion of tribulation, would be the most evil time the church has ever seen, ever will see,  right before the five virgins with jars of oil rapture.  More on this prophecy later, .   This seven year period would also be a tribulation period and time of great temptation for the raptured Saints before they are raptured, five virgins with jars of oil. 

       This will be the greatest harvest awakening on earth for the five virgins without jars of oil will lead them as part of the Great Tribulation Saints, Matthew 25:1-13.

                     Matthew 25:1-13 NIV

     1 "At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise.  3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them.  4 The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

       6 "At midnight the cry rang out:  'Here's the bridegroom!  Come out to meet him!'

       7 "Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, our lamps are going out.'

     9 " 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both of us and you.  Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.'

       10 "But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived.  The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet.  And the door was shut. 11"Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said.  'Open the door for us!'

       12 "But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.' 

       13 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour." 

     The city they were sent to buy oil is Babylon the Great, America.  Most of the Christians qualified to make the rapture and escape will be in third world nations, not the western nations that have church institutions doing nothing for their brothers and sisters in other countries being mistreated by Islam.  The ones with out the oil, God, in their lives will be all those shallow spoon fed Christians that have refused to be outraged when hearing of their brothers and sisters in Christ being martyred all over the world.  They are also the ones that will constantly accusing their brothers and sisters, other denominations.  They will all have impurities that need to be removed through the fire of tribulation.  Upon realization they just missed the rapture they will immediately go to their bibles and read the prophetic books and prophecy they rejected when they refused to wake up and put on their garments for the coming Bridegroom, Jesus Christ.   (Quote Jewish Traditions of Bride waiting bridegroom here) The virgins without jars of oil are the ones that refused to come to the party in the parable before the message was taken to the streets.  They are also the ones that lived in the rich countries refusing to help their brothers and sisters all over the world being martyred in the Islamic and Communistic countries. 

                       Assembly Image with permission of www According to the Ten Virgin Prophecy only 50% of the world's Christians will be counted worthy to escape the last six year tribulation period.  

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This 50% will mostly be the 3rd world countries where the real Christians are, where martyrs are, not the legalistic back biting back stabbing denominational building Christians of mostly protestant origins..  For they are missing something that can only be fixed in the fire of tribulation, God's furnace of purification, they are missing God's true love, they are missing God's words in their heart, they are missing the oil that keeps their hearts soft and malleable, they only have man's words in their hearts. There was also a six year period when Jacob wanted to leave but Laban begged Jacob to stay because Jacob had made Laban so wealthy, so, Jacob agreed and made a deal with Laban to work for spotted, striped and brown colored sheep, blemished sheep, as pay during this six year period.  Laban allowed this deal because he did not consider these blemished sheep and herds valuable or common.  But all are blemished and in a fallen state and God knows this. noaaUAjflVOLd4Y2516

       Jacob could keep as payment All spotted, striped and blemished sheep & goats from Laban to shepherd for Laban.  Laban & sons later complained that Jacob tricked them and took the whole flock, Genesis 31:1-3.  All three periods require great patients on the part of the Saints, that they won't have their rewards stolen by those that steal.    So there are three periods adding up to twenty years.  Think of it like this, a seven year Gentile Leah period, a seven year Jewish Rachel period and a six year great harvest period.  2.)  Rachel is a typecast of the Jewish bride, her older sister a typecast of the Gentile bride.  So the bride God picked first became last, and the one picked last became first.

3.)  Jacob is a typecast of Jesus Christ.  To understand what God will do during tribulation and how long tribulation will be we must study the Time of Jacob's Trouble, a twenty year period,  this is the key to Time of the End Prophecy.  Jacob redeemed Rachel and Leah from slavery to Laban just as Christ will redeem his two brides, the originally intended one, Israel, and the other bride, Christianity from slavery to Lucifer.  The family of Laban were a family of idol worshippers. 

            Mankind abusing fellow man; The Jews in the nazi death camps

Man's Cruelty to ManJacob selected them just like God selected the Jewish people, by default, because someone had to be first and rejected,  and later the Gentile people, Christianity, by default so no one could say they were better then the other with bragging rights. For it was in about the seventeenth year that Rachel's womb was finally opened up by the Lord and this is the time. Christ spoke of as a time of great distress like no other like a woman in labor.  Rachel died giving birth to her second kid, Benjamin, it appears in around the twentieth year of the Time of Jacob's  Trouble when they were still on their way back.  We are all undeserving, blemished with stripes and spots and dirty colored brown souls. During the last six years Jacob becomes wealthy by redeeming many sheep and goats blemished with speckles & spots, Genesis 31:1-3. 

4.)  Uncle Laban is a typecast of Satan.  He enslaved his own daughters selling them like slaves, Genesis 31:14-16.  He thought sheep with blemishes, spotted, striped and speckled coats were worthless.  He tried to trick his own people, Jacob, into working for nothing, enslaving them.  Laban thinks he is crafty by tricking Jacob for fourteen years, but, in the end Jacob leaves with great wealth. Laban keeps all the sheep considered good by the world's standards.  Laban tries to stop Jacob from leaving in the middle of the night.  This means that during both tribulations God's people will have trouble cutting their ties with the world, just like Jacob struggled leaving the world behind, leaving uncle Laban and sons behind.  But you had better flee Babylon the Great America for her judgments will be a double portion heaped upon her head.  Flee the large cities and the country if you can, but flee.  Everything will soon collapse, the markets, the skyscrapers will collapse, all the major cities will collapse.  Wake Up Wake Up!  Flee back to the countries you came from!

               Now Hold On There Partner!

There is more here for you.  If the, "Time of Jacob's Trouble," is the "Tribulation" period: Are there any other places this relates to in bible prophecy?  A resounding yes!  This relates directly to the seventy years prophecy.    And here it is.   First we must read scripture:

                                             Daniel 7:25 NIV

       He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws.  The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.

       The he is the Islamic Antichrist nations.  You should already know this if you have read my other sermons on who the antichrist nations will be and how they are not coming from europe but Islamic middle east. So since we now know that the Time of Jacob's Trouble, also called tribulation,  is a 20 year period and not a 7 year period commonly misinterpreted then this 20 year period should fit smoothly in other parts of the bible, so lets try it.

             Time = 20 years            Times = 40 years         Half a Time = 10 years

                                                           Add these up!

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                                        70 Years Total

So we could read this as this.  The Saints will be handed over to the antichrist nations for a coming future period, actually the last seventy years before Judgement Day, the Day of the Lord.   So is there anywhere else that this prophecy can be plugged in and works?  A resounding yes!   I am glad you asked.    First we must read more scripture.

                                                          Revelation 12:14 NIV

       The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpents reach. 

       So once again we now know that the Time of Jacob's Trouble, also called tribulation,  is a 20 year period and not a 7 year period commonly misinterpreted then this 20 year period should fit smoothly here also in Revelation, so lets try it again.

                          Time = 20 years            Times = 40 years         Half a Time = 10 years

                                                                                           Add these up!

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                                        70 Years Total

 

       So this scripture interprets that Israel & Judah  (woman) will be rescued & protected by a beast (eagle=America & England) that takes care of her for 70 years, takes her to a desert, prepared for her by God.  This is also called the seventy year prophecy, the seventy years that Israel will be rebuilt by the four craftsmen, Zechariah 1:20-21.  This period of time must be the same so Israel was in desolation for seventy years by the four horns sent by God, Zechariah 1:18-19.  The eagle is America and England in Daniel 7:4.  The Lion is England and the eagle is America.  Both of them work together as one.  The wings means they spread something throughout the earth.  So scripturally it fits here also.  You can find out my scriptural evidence of this and the other beasts in, "My Commentary on the Book of Daniel." 

                                               Revelation 12:4 NIV continued

                        

The serpent was trying to exterminate the Jews with Adolf Hitler, God's chosen ones to reveal his plan, and America & England are sent by God to rescue the Jews bringing this issue up at the United Nations to allow them to return to the desert, land given them by Almighty God himself, so the United Nations issues a decree for them to rebuild Israel.  But the Islamic antichrist nations are fighting this wanting to exterminate Israel and pick up where Adolf Hitler left off.  Adolf Hitler 

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So do you think we are in tribulation right now?  How long can the world survive Nuclear Proliferation?  How long do you think tribulation will be?  What is your scriptural evidence for what you believe?

 



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